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MARTIN: |
Hi.
I'm Martin Learner. We talked on the telephone. |
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ISHIKAWA: |
Hi.
I'm coming down. |
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ISHIKAWA: |
Wheeewh. It's hot. I'm happy to meet you. I'm Ishikawa. |
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MARTIN: |
Is
that what I call you? |
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ISHIKAWA: |
Yes, everybody does. |
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MARTIN: |
Call me Martin. Is this a good time? |
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ISHIKAWA: |
Sure. I need a break. Let's sit over there on that bench. Or is that
too noisy? |
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MARTIN: |
No,
that's fine. |
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ISHIKAWA: |
It's too hot for this work. What do you think of my work so far?
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MARTIN: |
It's nice. I like murals. |
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ISHIKAWA: |
Do
you really like it? I don't know what I think. Maybe it's going OK.
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MARTIN: |
Do
you always doubt yourself? I think it's very interesting so far. |
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ISHIKAWA: |
I
still have a lot of painting to do. It's not bad. |
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MARTIN: |
May
I ask some questions? |
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ISHIKAWA: |
Please do. I like to talk about my work. It helps me see things.
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MARTIN: |
You've painted that very large blue circle in the corner. What is
that? |
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ISHIKAWA: |
It's the sun. |
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MARTIN: |
I
thought it might be. But the sun isn't blue. Why did you make it
blue? |
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ISHIKAWA: |
It's hard to say. The sun should give life. Right? But the sun can't
give life to everyone. For some people, the sun is not a benefit. Do
you see? |
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MARTIN: |
It's like the moon. |
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ISHIKAWA: |
Maybe. |
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MARTIN: |
The
group of people standing under the trees are very nice. Tell me
about them. |
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ISHIKAWA: |
Do
you like the way I've painted their clothes? |
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MARTIN: |
They're very colorful. There are lots of bright colors. Why did you
do that? |
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ISHIKAWA: |
Do
they look American? |
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MARTIN: |
Not
exactly. No, they don't. The clothes don't look American. |
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ISHIKAWA: |
Good. I don't want that group of people to be American. |
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MARTIN:
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You've done a good job of that. |
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ISHIKAWA: |
Where are they from? |
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MARTIN: |
I'm
not able to say exactly. They're from some warm place. |
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ISHIKAWA: |
Yes, yes. Some warm place. |
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MARTIN: |
It
looks like an island. |
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ISHIKAWA: |
Good, good. |
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MARTIN: |
Ishikawa, why are they so large? |
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ISHIKAWA: |
They are not large. The island is small. Do they look happy? |
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MARTIN: |
Well, yes they do. |
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ISHIKAWA: |
So
what do you think? |
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MARTIN: |
The
sun isn't warm. But these people are still in a warm place. They're
happy. But their island, their home, is too small. |
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ISHIKAWA: |
Good, good. That's not bad. |
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MARTIN: |
I'll have to think about that. |
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MARTIN: |
Ishikawa, I don't think I understand all of the painting. |
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ISHIKAWA: |
That's all right. I don't want people to understand it all at once.
They should look at it over and over again. |
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