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MARTIN: |
I
want to thank you, Mr. Calder. I appreciate being able to come to
the meeting. |
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CALDER: |
You're welcome. Are you interested in public transportation? |
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MARTIN: |
I'm
interested in how people make decisions. I want to see how your city
decides things. |
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CALDER: |
This is the way. First we study the problem. Then we have a public
meeting. We present the facts. We listen. Finally, we decide. |
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MARTIN: |
How
do you present the facts? |
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CALDER: |
That's what we will do tonight. Watch and listen. |
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MARTIN: |
Who
presents the facts? |
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CALDER: |
The
panel. We have studied the facts. We'll present them. Next we'll
talk about them. Then the audience will ask questions and comment.
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MARTIN: |
Will this be the only meeting? |
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CALDER: |
Maybe not. We might have another meeting. |
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MARTIN: |
May
I talk with you after the meeting? |
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CALDER: |
Of
course. The meeting is about to begin. We'll talk later. |
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MARTIN: |
Thanks. |
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CALDER: |
Could you say something about the number of cars, Mary Anne? |
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MARY A: |
Yes, I can say a lot about cars. There are too many. We all know
that. |
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CALDER: |
What do you mean by that? |
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MARY A: |
I
mean all of us here know that. We see them every day, every weekend
in this neighborhood. |
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CALDER: |
What do you think, Jim? |
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JIM: |
I
think Mary Anne is right. There are too many cars. That's a fact.
Did you have trouble getting here tonight? |
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AUDIENCE: |
Yes. I did. Etc... |
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JIM: |
I
did too. I'm sure we all did. But there are reasons. |
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CALDER: |
What are some of those reasons? |
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JIM: |
We
built too many public buildings in this neighborhood. |
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MARY A: |
I
agree. Without planning. Without more streets. Without public
transportation to this area. |
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CALDER: |
But
we do have public transportation here. |
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MARY A: |
Yes, we do have a few buses. The public transportation isn't enough.
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CALDER: |
Obviously. I had trouble getting here too. |
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MARY A: |
On
the weekend, we have more than thirty thousand cars on the streets
in this neighborhood. |
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CALDER: |
Some weekends. Not every weekend. |
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JIM: |
That's part of the problem. We can't just build more streets. Most
of the time they would be empty. |
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MARY A: |
It's better to have empty streets sometimes. |
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CALDER: |
That's an opinion. |
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MARY A: |
Now
we have a mess on weekends. It's impossible. The cars can't move.
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CALDER: |
That's a fact. |
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MARY A: |
I
know the difference between a fact and an opinion, Chuck. But I feel
very strongly about this. |
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CALDER: |
It's obvious you do. |
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CALDER: |
I
think we need a few more facts. Let's give some numbers. |
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MARY A: |
I
would like to hear comments from the audience too. |
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JIM: |
That would be helpful I feel. |
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